Posted On
3/14/2017
12:56:09 AM
by
Ram Singh
Shame on you guys questioning the integrity of modi ji? How can you guys think like this? He is the best PM ever of India. He is so honest that he didn’t took a single penny to his expenses during the CM of Gujrat in 13 years and now also he sacrificed his personal life to serve the nation. This is a good luck of the people of India that Mr. Modi has become PM of our country. Don’t spread rumor and degrade yourself guys.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
1:04:21 AM
by
R
One fool posts a link of 2010 and says Indian EVMs can be tampered EVEN TODAY and an other fool cheerleads him.......waiting for many other fools.
You could dig out a seven years old link, but you couldn't dig out a 4 years old link where supreme court directed Election commission to install/patch EVMs with VVPAT.
No wonder the so called IITian Kejriwal and the fools who suspect Indian EVMs can be tampered are in the same category of Mayawati.
Go find out yourself what VVPAT is and how/when/where it is implemented in our EVMs.
Learn to gracefully accept defeat rather than be a case of "sour grapes". Get a life losers and haters.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
1:34:33 AM
by
Mayawati
Abe gadhe Kejriwaal. This news is of date 18 May 2010 and at that time UPA was in power. So why did not UPA use hacking to come to power. If UPA was unable then how come BJP is able to hack.
Another gadha also did not copy paste the link and read the news. He just wrote some comments without verifying the facts. I am sure he uses the same intelligence in his job too hence no promotion.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
1:40:55 AM
by
Observer
With the same tampered EVMs how did congress win Punjab and emerge as single largest party in Goa and Manipur? Please make sense with your posts, don't exhibit your verbal diarrhea.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
1:42:03 AM
by
Humanist
It should not really matter who win the election, either party winning in power is required to do the right thing. It is foolish to celebrate BJP victory and Congress’s loss. Because all are corrupt to the bone if not for money then for religious bigotry. People get into power due to team work of campaign sponsorship usually by self-interested businessmen, these politicians have to deliver the services to these businessmen for their favors first and then comes the nation. So while commoners are distracted by media houses in trivial useless debates, reall business is happening in background. Fools celebrate the wolves as their saviors … sorry not fools .. helpless sheeps because we all have to pick the least of the worst ! nevertheless worst !
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Posted On
3/14/2017
1:53:50 AM
by
HSA
I do not claim that the EVMs have been tampered with in the recent UP elections. I have no evidence either way. But anybody who claims that EVMs are tamper proof and that patches applied 4 years ago have made them completely secure is a bigger fool than those who he is calling fools. No patch provides security once and for all. Vulnerabilities are constantly surfacing and evildoers are constantly exploring how to subvert systems and machines. It is an ongoing game. Even in a highly advanced country like the USA and as recently as August 2016, EVMs have been the subject of suspicion. Please read this article if you are interested: https://www.wired.com/2016/08/americas-voting-machines-arent-ready-election/ I suppose our EVMs are more advanced and foolproof than those in America?
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Posted On
3/14/2017
2:02:50 AM
by
HSA
Let's all be fair. Let us say the Congress tampered with EVMs to win Punjab and the BJP did the same with UP.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
2:16:02 AM
by
R
@HSA, the genius. You might consider yourself inferior to America/Americans, I DONT! You might not even consider India as the largest democracy of the world because of your inferiority.
Your intellect didn't even compel you to find out what VVPAT is......it's either a paper based or electronically generated log counter verifying each vote polled in the EVM as per booth number and Voter ID etc..
A guy with an inferiority complex and trying to run down facts, truth and logic should be the leader of the band of fools. No?
Yes the EVMs we use ARE SUPERIOR to the American EVMs. Next gen compact and more user friendly EVMs are already in the pipeline. Hopeful debut in 2019.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
2:44:00 AM
by
HSA
I would like to thank R for acknowledging my genius. VVPAT I did not bother to check. I confess that. But now I have. And what I have understood is that VVPAT only works if the voter checks to see whether his vote has been recorded correctly. How many voters in UP would have done that. Secondly VVPAT is not foolproof either. Let me quote from Wikipedia to prove I am a genius: COMMON PROBLEMS WITH VVPAT Video of voter behavior during an actual election revealed that most voters do not "verify" their choices by reading the VVPAT. A manual VVPAT recount/audit is labor-intensive and expensive, and likely unaffordable to most candidates seeking it. And while VVPAT is designed to serve as a check on DRE (Direct Recording Electronic) vote recorders, it relies on the same proprietary programming and electronics to produce the audit trail. SECURITY CONCERNS WITH VVPAT The introduction of malicious software into a VVPAT system can cause it to intentionally misrecord the voter's selections. This attack could minimize detection by manipulating only a small percentage of the votes or for only lesser known races. Another security concern is that a VVPAT could print while no voter is observing the paper trail, a form of ballot stuffing. Even if additional votes were discovered through matching to the voters list, it would be impossible to identify legitimate ballots from fraudulent ballots. Alternatively the printer could invalidate the printed record after the voter leaves and print a new fraudulent ballot. These ballots would be undetectable as invalidated ballots are quite common during elections. Also, VVPAT systems that are technically able to reverse the paper feed could be open to manipulated software overwriting or altering the VVPAT after the voter checks it.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
2:55:05 AM
by
HSA
I have always found that the best way to deal with a Modi Bhakt is to use facts. They are unused to facts. Facts leave them speechless!
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Posted On
3/14/2017
5:03:59 AM
by
KOC
By the same logic.. SP+BSP+INC = 50% vote share.. BJP had only 39.5%.. shouldn't the governor have called SP,BSP n Congress to form govt?
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Posted On
3/14/2017
6:09:36 AM
by
R
@Confused HSA, I also said you have inferiority complex, but you chose to be selective about my comments. I appreciate and accept your acknowledgement that I enlightened you! You sure are a good pupil.
Now that you know what VVPAT is, read more to find out when was it implemented, how was it implemented....it's testing and trials and ultimately you will get to the authenticity of EVM polling.
Election commission has already given a statement regarding the authencity of polling by EVMs. If you don't believe it, just live all your life whining, you cant do anything about it other than being a cry baby.
"Bhakt" terminology: You take 1 step ahead and go back light years in terms of knowledge, my dear pupil. Let me enlighten you YET AGAIN...not all Modi supporters are bhakts but definitely all bhakts are Modi supporters. If we go by your logic, Mr Obama, Ms Hillary, Ms Theresa, Mr. Shinzo Abe, Mr. Trump, Mr. Malcolm, Mr Trudea, Ms Angela, Mr Bernard, Mr Putin, Mr. Sirisena, Mr. Cameron........to name a few are all bhakts. Are they?
I may or may not be a bhakt but you definitely are either a Daas/ghulam (slave of congress) or an Aaptard (supporter of AAP, all of whom are mentally challenged, coz no sane person supports a fraud like Kejriwal).
I am hanging around, will try to enlighten you as much as I can. I am no illuminati though.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
6:34:16 AM
by
Observer
@ HSA
You very well know what is the definition of bhakts. then why r u wasting ur energy and time. We all know the truth about this so called power monger yapping gay sucker. he sold his wife. he sold his other. allhe likes is to uck and lick &^%$#@ of ambanis and adanis. Anything and everything about this guy is a fake. Just wondering how to bear this stinking for another 2.5 years more.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
6:41:52 AM
by
Teri sulgi na
@Observer, 7.5 more years to go for sure as of now, your misery might continue well until 2029. All the best.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
8:47:19 AM
by
HSA
My problem is that I did not get the right kind of education. I failed to graduate from the Modi Institute of Mass Miscommunications and so now my mind is not trained to accept the right facts and swallow the right explanations. As R said I am confused. When the Election Commission says the voting machines in UP were quite alright my uneducated mind asks: Should we accept their statement without some objective proof like a post-election audit or certification of the EVMs by an independent agency? When our Honorable Prime Minister Narendra Modi asserts the December quarter economic growth post-currency demonetisation was a healthy 7 % my confused brain wonders why the economic results of the December 2015 quarter were revised downwards in year 2017 so that automatically the December 2016 quarter figure showed a higher percentage growth. My brain in fact is so dull that when Modi Bhakts tell me that all the world leaders are thrilled with our Prime Minster, my brain asks: But why is that not reflected in our Indian exports going up ?
Of course what is clear is that I need to correct my understanding of Modi Bhakts. For instance I said earlier that when confronted with facts they become speechless. What I did not realize is that they don't remain speechless very long. After a while they start talking again and then they call us such creative names like Aaptard, Crybaby, Daas/Ghulaam etc. Their command over abusive language is simply amazing. Why do Modi Bhakts needs facts for argument when they have the BJP Hand book of Insults issued to every party supporter and which is the most comprehensive collection of abuses to be used on all who don't support Modi and family.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
8:00:40 PM
by
Scorpio
Non bhakts, face it Bjp won period. Tampering or no. Modi has got the recipe right. U don't need the 20% when u got the backing of 80%. All modi needs to do is paint the other parties as pro minority and anti national ( since all minorities are anti national and should be in Pakistan , Rome, etc as per Bjp !!!) They will keep winning. On the development front, still waiting for bhakts to move back to india, only then I will believe. As of now, all bhakts scream jai modi jai development but still stand begging for visas in front of embassies.
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Posted On
3/14/2017
9:10:12 PM
by
JM
This is what happens when the 80% are ignored and the 20% are given preferential treatment. The School books, the newspapers, the movies, the books, the so called intellectuals were so much biased against the hindu culture. For long we were demeaned and shamed. The so called 20%s beleifs were injected to our society. The final result, we have a country with the largest no of 20%s who root for pakistan and rome. if i ask my colleagues in work what are u first an india or a 20% he will say 20%. Finally now we have a true leader in Modiji. He is Ram of our times and Amitji is his Lakshman. Together they will create a Ramrajya where all the 80 and 20%s will have equal rights. No more minority appeasement. Only Raj Dharma to follwed. Jai Shri Ram, Jai Modi!!!!
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Posted On
3/14/2017
11:11:41 PM
by
R
@ Confused HSA, You don't have to be a graduate of Modi Mass communications to understand truth and facts (Btw he is considered one of the best orators in the world). You just have to be unbiased without any prejudice and of course a normal IQ. Your assumptions and delusions can be facts for yourself but not to the world. Let me rebut each and every point with facts and truth. 1. EVMs and external audit: I literally rolled on the floor laughing. You want a government held extremely fair process (yes, no doubt about it) like elections to be audited by a 3rd party (most probably a pvt firm)?! Kudos! That's same like asking a person/child with a birth certificate to prove his parentage with a DNA test.
2. Revision of GDP: The GDP was revised not to lower but to raise it. It was revised from 7.6% to 7.9%. Here, check this link: http://www.livemint.com/Industry/fOtMe4T3PN8CtLaeoO3E8M/Indias-GDP-growth-rate-for-201516-revised-to-79-from-76.html Let's consider your allegation of LOWERING/MODIFYING GDP figures: Why has UPA been doing it every now and then revising the base years?! Care to reply? (if you understand it)
3. World leaders - Modi - Exports Appreciation of Modi is reflected in FDI my friend not exports, we are not a manufacturing hub yet like China. That will take some time and a major push. Try finding out which was the best year for highest FDI. Now, before you question about dwindling exports, check the exports of China and the world. Hope your are aware that China is going through an economic crunch right now. (or am I asking for the moon?!)
4. Victim card When you and your ilk (yes, lemme generalize and reply you in the same coin since you generalized me and ASSUME me to be a bhakt) run out of facts, all you do is play the victim card. If the words ghulaam/daas/aaptard are abusive so is "bhakt" with the same logic. Do check out a dictionary what "abuse" is and then show me one comment of mine where I was abusive.
I don't know if you lack basic education but you definitely lack a comprehension skills, broad mind and IQ. Stop ingesting and digesting propaganda spread by Congress and AAP and you will get well and become normal. Good luck to you and have a prosperous life ahead! (one of the abuses from my BJP supplied handbook ;) )
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Posted On
3/14/2017
11:16:35 PM
by
R
* comprehension skills, a broad mind
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Posted On
3/15/2017
12:53:19 AM
by
HSA
Because of my confused mind, poor comprehension skills, narrow outlook and low IQ as pointed out by R, I have to rely on facts to support my arguments. Here is my first fact about the 7% GDP growth reported by the Modi Government in the December 2016 quarter covering demonetization and post demonetization. . First the base – which is third quarter GDP for 2015-16 – as announced on February 9, 2016, was Rs 28,52,339 crore. Then on May 31, 2016, this figure was slightly revised downwards to Rs 28,51,682 crores.” As both these figures would have meant a 6.2% growth-rate for 2016-17, Prof Patnaik (one of the leading Indian economists) says, finally, on February 28, 2017, “suddenly”, the base was further reduced to Rs 28,30,760 crore, getting the third quarter growth rate of 7 percent for 2016-17! This is the Modi Magic Wand effect. Here are the comments of economists in India and abroad on India's so called 7% GDP growth which the Modi bhakts are celebrating. STATE BANK OF INDIA: ‘TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE’ The country’s largest lender said there had been a sharp downward revision of GDP numbers for the third quarter of the last financial year, resulting in higher growth in the third quarter of 2016-17, and “masking the impact of demonetisation”. “Even then it seems implausible that the positive effect of downward revision in previous year is strong enough to overpower the negative effect of demonetisation in Q3 FY17,” SBI added. NOMURA GROUP: ‘DOESN’T ADD UP’ The Japanese securities house said the data does not add up. It pointed to high-frequency real activity data released since demonetisation which suggested that consumption and services were hit because they are more cash-intensive. Nomura believes the discrepancy could be due to the inability of official statistics to capture the negative growth effects on the unorganized sectors; positive base effects created by upward revision in the fourth quarter of 2015 GDP growth; and companies showing their cash in hand as sales. For more comments please read this link: http://www.livemint.com/Politics/RcYarclyeeCnMMjXionERP/What-analysts-economists-think-of-Indias-GDP-growth-rate-a.html?li_source=LI&li_medium=news_rec
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Posted On
3/15/2017
1:04:22 AM
by
Citizen of India
All Modi bhakts there is no point arguing with Modi haters as once you hate anyone, you hate all the things associated with him. What ever Modi does good will never be acceptable to haters. I also know that Modi will do some thing good but can not do much good but I still admire him for the reasons best known to me only.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
1:25:51 AM
by
HSA
My next fact is about post election audits. The idea that election results need to be audited makes Modi bhakts roll on the floor laughing but only of course if the BJP happened to win that particular election. Suppose Mr Modi had lost the UP election you can be sure the Modi supporters would be yelling that the elections were rigged and the ballot papers need to be audited. Let me quote from a website https://www.verifiedvoting.org/resources/post-election-audits/ Why Audit Election Results? No voting system is perfect. Nearly all US elections today are counted using electronic voting systems. Such voting systems have produced result-changing errors through problems with hardware, software, and procedures.1 Errors can also occur in hand counting of ballots or in the compiling of results. Even serious error can go undetected if results are not audited effectively. Well-designed and properly performed post-election audits can significantly mitigate the threat of error, and should be considered integral to any vote counting system. A post-election audit in this document refers to hand-counting votes on paper records and comparing those counts to the corresponding vote counts originally reported, as a check on the accuracy of election results, and resolving discrepancies using accurate hand counts of the paper records as the benchmark. Such audits are arguably the most economical component of a quality voting system, adding a very small cost for a large set of benefits.
Finally on the issue of FDI the bhakts of Modi should understand that critical sectors like Defence and Infrastructure have been thrown open to foreign investors on a 100% ownership basis. As a result, thanks to the Modi Government a much greater share of returns on investments will go outside India. In the greed to feed Mr Modi's ego the ‘ease of doing business’ is being promoted at the risk of long term security of our country. Now let's all say "Jai Hind"!
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Posted On
3/15/2017
1:41:09 AM
by
HSA
Whenever anybody questions the performance of the Modi Government, Modi bhakts start calling us Modi haters. I have one question. Please explain what Mr Modi has actually achieved in almost three years of power. Are prices of commodities and services down? Are farmers and agricultural sector doing well? Are all sections of the people content and happy? Has the huge massive amount of money stashed away in Swiss and other foreign banks been brought back? Has welfare spending increased? Is the unemployment situation in India better? Is the trade balance with China improved in India's favor? Please answer those question with factual honest replies Modi bhakts before you point fingers at us as Modi haters. We don't hate Modi. We just want our nation to develop and all sections of our society - not just the rich business segment represented by Ambanis and Adanis and their kind - to prosper.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
1:58:37 AM
by
Citizen of India
@ HSA. You should have asked these questions to Congress who have ruled for decades. You are asking a party which just took the reins in the hands for course correction. I have never seen your posts on Congress rule. Why always attack BJP? Give them some time. Do you deliver results in your job as soon as you join or you blame the old employee who did the mess?
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Posted On
3/15/2017
2:46:52 AM
by
Humanist
Let me begin with hating congress to appease Modi-Bhakts. Congress is crap and has looted Indians for 60+ years. They are bad and very bad.
3 years is a fairly good time at least to see some paperwork moved in right direction. Mr. Modi is not a magician to fulfill every Indian’s whim and fancy, niether he can recover overnight the losses and mess created by congress in last decades. What is gone is by gone, ofcourse investigations should continue for misdeeds.
It is silly at assume Modi or amit shah is powerful enough to implement policies. Running a country like India is not one man show. Modi is just a poster boy to keep Indians relaxed that there is a father figure out there taking care of you. Similar to Sonia mataji when congress in power. Meanwhile corruption seeps deep into the system regardless of BJPite or Congressite or any other parasite in political system.
As a commoner my priorities are of day to day life. Clean streets, affordable medicare (pvt or public), good education system, good transport, affordable food and dependable law and order free from religious bigotry.
These are basics that a govt should look into from day one into power, these do not require to ponder over mess that has been from 60 years. This is a not a rocket science. Start now to correct possibly 5 years later we would be better than yesterday if not perfect ! but has a start been done ??
Look around and see, common sense is lacking in every govt undertaking, lack of safety and equipment for cleaning workforce, hospitals, police, education etc, where in the world is all the taxpayer’s money. Congress did not do it, When is BJP going to start !! I am not asking for results, I am asking for Initiatives!! This are not one by one task to finish by one person ! Parliamentarians are wasting time debating showmanship, ridiculing each other like bunch of class bullies.
No matter what; who stays in power, India is ruled by bunch of businessmen elites who own the country. This politicians are their puppets to put up a façade of democracy for masses to be entertained and parliament is a giant theatre to put up that show.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
3:24:21 AM
by
R
@ low IQ HSA The more you reply to me, the more you are making a laughing stock of yourself. You choose to be selective in replying to my comments and in that you either compare apples to oranges or question right things to the wrong party.
I slammed each and every argument of yours with facts. But you hop from one point to another when you can no longer prove it......be it auditing of polls, tampering EVMs, adjusting GDP (lowering GDP as per you) etc. I hope sanity prevails and you realize you are clutching straws.
I can fill up the entire comments section with economists slamming UPA's base year adjustment in GDP. (I know you don't even have an idea what it is).
The questions of commodities' price rise, agricultural sector, people not being happy/content etc.. should have been put to Nehru and successive govts right from 1952, but NO...you and your ilk wake up only now after 2014. Heck Pakistan's economy was either the same or more than ours in 1960s. Nobody even todays questions ex government's policies such as forward policy (1962 war with China), emergency, economy going down the drain until Mr. Narasimha Rao resurrected it, for which he was even denied a place of burial in Delhi, as he went against Nehruvian policies and ideology. Mr. Narasimha Rao is the only Indian PM who doesn't have a memorial in Delhi. Why didn't you and your ilk question UPA?
Trade balance with China: A normal IQ 10th class student would bang his head to the wall reading this. China is a manufacturing hub of the world, it's doors to economic reforms were thrown open in 1970s-1980s and is on the verge of overtaking US in terms of economy, and you want a trade balance with China? What is it that you make in India, which China doesn't make and you want to export? With every question of yours, you are going down the ladder of IQ and up the ladder of stupidity.
The topics left over for you to hop on are riots, beef ban and ghar waapsi. I will counter that too with facts and will counter anything and everything you come up with. You don't have to clarify your hate or love for Modi, your vitriol for him says it all.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
3:38:49 AM
by
R
@Humanist,
You seem to be the most sane voice out here on the forum (as I know). Your critique impressed me, cannot agree with you more, barring a few points.
1. Cleanliness is a national revolution today, now it's up to the public as individuals to take it forward. 2. There never was/is/will be any government without corporate funding/backing. It's impossible, that's the world order. Communism is a different thing though. 3. I too am disappointed with the government on other fronts, but this government is our best bet as things stand today.
Let's see how things change at least until 2019,as it appears now.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
5:11:51 AM
by
Humanist
Dear R Thanks for the compliments, unfortunately corporate funding is a reality, but accepting this as a norm is a dangerous trend for a fair democracy. This is a wishful thinking but let us first seed this in our conscience and possibly it could be a reality to not have corporate houses exert influence on public policy. I was optimistic with the idea of swach bharat abhyan, but it turned into just another addition to taxation. To make india clean a massive war footing industrial scale type of initiative is required. Before asking people to mind their garbage, an exhaustive, technologically, ecologically competent infrastructure has to be created. Which is lacking. We have the brains and resources, what is lacking is intent ! IMO this lack of intent is subtly due to religious bigotry; caste system across religions be it shudra ghanchi muslim types casteism prevailing. It is deplorable to see fellow Indians diving into gutters without proper equipment and safety. Reforms that I dream, cannot be bought objectively by pumping money and resources into economy, it requires an ideological reform, where Indians specially political leaders rise above religious differences and see the problem as it is without religious, caste or creed affiliation. Politicians get short sighted due to lack of education, empathy and indebted under corporate favors.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
8:39:29 AM
by
Laxminarayan Gopal
One thing I have to agree with - when R said Modi "is considered one of the best orators in the world" he spoke the truth. And that is the problem. Modi is nothing but words, words and more words. People who listen to his speeches get thrilled. Which is why the Modi bhakts are suffering from mass mesmerism. When you present any facts contrary to Modi's claims of achievements these Bhakts close their eyes and say: "What facts? We don't see any." The problem is the nation does not develop just through words and slogans, at both of which Mr Modi is an acknowledged expert. R says he has slammed every one of my arguments with facts. Actually he has tried slamming me with insults which don't work upon me because unlike Modi bhakts I don't let emotions interfere with logic. Which fact of mine has R rebutted? Does he claim that the GDP growth % of 7 given by Modi is factual? I have given facts and figures to prove the growth figure has been manipulated. I am not an economist but my facts and figures are based on opinions and comments given by leading economists and I have given the link to their comments. So the person who has his head buried under the ground is not me. Which argument of R's have I not dealt with? I have replied point by point. And if there is anything inadvertently left out I will be happy to deal with it as well. Let us get on to the China-India trade issue. According to R since China is the manufacturing hub of the world it is futile to want a trade balance with China. Nobody is expecting that we will be able to turn the present huge trade surplus in China's favor overnight. What we ARE expecting is that concrete steps should be taken to reduce our deficit with China by imposing anti-dumping duties, giving preference to other countries for sourcing imports where possible, tying our trade with China to investments in our country that will be made obligatory as a quid pro quo for the huge imports we make from them etc. Unfortunately, these and other measures are beyond the capacity of Modi bhakts to understand. They think the only way to reduce the trade surplus is to increase our exports. As I said before Modi fans/bhakts/supporters are mesmerized into the belief that whatever he dishes out to them is the unadulterated truth. This is what happens when your brains are taken over by a man's personality and eloquence and you lose your capacity to think objectively and rationally.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
8:42:11 AM
by
Laxminarayan Gopal
I am now posting under my own name so that there will be no accusations that am hiding my identity with initials.
I have one final point about R's accusation that I jump from topic to topic. Who brought the UPI into this thread? Was it I or he? Why is it that when Modi bhakts have no facts left to argue with they bring in the Congress Government as a last resort? The UPI was kicked into the dustbin by the people during the 2014 elections. Nobody denies the scams and wrongdoings of the Congress and the justice of its punishment. The people elected the BJP to power because of Modi's oratory and tall promises. We certainly have the right to assess his performance which has been dismal so far. It does not mean I am a Congress supporter. However Modi bhakts should learn that comparing Modi's failures with the UPI's disasters will no longer work. People are beginning to realize that Modi is a man of big promises and small performance. True he managed to win the UP elections with a thumping majority but 2019 is not too far when the people will have the opportunity to exercise their franchise once again. Modi bhakts should not take it for granted that the people will remain fooled and mesmerized. The next Lok Sabha elections may be a rude eye-opener for the bhakts. Finally I don't need to label R as stupid, low-IQed etc as he has been doing to me. That he has resorted to name calling only proves his own inability to sustain a decent discussion and his bankruptcy with regard to facts. A modi bhakt is his own worst enemy.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
9:47:41 AM
by
Congress
I don't understand the logic behind Bhakts living out of India. They can enjoy good status back home.
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Posted On
3/15/2017
10:07:22 PM
by
Syed
http://www.hindustantimes.com/mumbai-news/i-voted-for-myself-but-got-zero-vote-bmc-poll-independent-candidate-to-sec/story-KFXhXfiWaD7anowqwCcZDI.html
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Posted On
3/15/2017
11:11:42 PM
by
Indian
@Congress, Why r u here when ur party has ruled India for 70yrs? Applying the same logic, will all of Congress supporters leave India now? Keep crying and whining until 2024. Long live pappu!
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Posted On
3/16/2017
6:45:23 AM
by
R
Sensible people speak when they got something to say, while ________ people speak, just to say something.
@Humanist, Agree there is lack of intent regarding equipment for sewer cleaning, but I definitely don't think it's got anything to do with caste/creed/religion prejudice. My disappointment with Modi administration though is the soft approach towards stone pelters in Kashmir, regarding repealing of article 370, about abolishing reservation of any kind in India and border disputes with China. Add to this Modi himself clearly said that he is in favour of reservations in India....vote bank politics of course!
I do realize Kashmir, article 370 and border dispute with China (Doval is working on it though) are very tricky and in fact very sensitive issues and will take time to get our act together on these, but I firmly believe if not for Modi, these things cant be solved by anybody else, case in point being exchange of enclaves with Bangladesh.
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Posted On
3/16/2017
7:04:18 AM
by
Humanist
@R Oh dear ! While I have lived in India, I have seen the apathy towards cleaning staff and the common attitude towards them is due to lower caste and lower economic status. What stops India from implementing safety and equipments to grass roots level, similar to the one we see in Kuwait or other developed countries. Have you seen fellow Indians diving into gutters with bare clothes, picking up human waste etc. One argument is corruption by local municipality wherein funds for the resources are gulped down and another is general apathy towards this industry’s workers who happen to be majorly low caste. This glaring corruption is visible to all yet we are immune to this ridiculous treatment of fellow Indians.
We all have our picks to be not content with public policy, you have picked macro level public-foreign policy to your dissatisfaction, while I chose to focus on grassroots nuances. Everything shall be open to debate with civility.
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